Comments on: An open letter to friends and colleagues on keyword popovers http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/ Ryan Block Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:00:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Jay http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-111399 Jay Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:38:53 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-111399 funny thread about this exact thing over at the cnet forums... obviously Willzsales works for Vibrant. :P funny thread about this exact thing over at the cnet forums… obviously Willzsales works for Vibrant. :P

]]> By: Center for Citizen Media: Blog » Blog Archive » Citizen Media Business Issues: Ad Space http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-56931 Center for Citizen Media: Blog » Blog Archive » Citizen Media Business Issues: Ad Space Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:19:21 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-56931 [...] as a nuisance not far removed from their pariah cousins, the popup ads.  Some, like Engadget’s Ryan Block, declare them to be even worse because “at least [popups] can quickly be cleared out with an [...] [...] as a nuisance not far removed from their pariah cousins, the popup ads.  Some, like Engadget’s Ryan Block, declare them to be even worse because “at least [popups] can quickly be cleared out with an [...]

]]> By: Gas Bandit http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-53781 Gas Bandit Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:37:15 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-53781 I found my enjoyment of the internet increased exponentially when I added *.intellitxt.com and *.vibrantmedia.com to my Firefox's adblock. Now I never get any of those crappy double-underlined green links. Maybe it'll help you fellas as well. Never a more compelling reason to switch to firefox, imo. I found my enjoyment of the internet increased exponentially when I added *.intellitxt.com and *.vibrantmedia.com to my Firefox’s adblock. Now I never get any of those crappy double-underlined green links. Maybe it’ll help you fellas as well. Never a more compelling reason to switch to firefox, imo.

]]> By: Shanx http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-47769 Shanx Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:56:01 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-47769 Well written Ryan. Couldn't agree more! The discussion on the airliners.net site is very instructive Ed, thanks. Well written Ryan. Couldn’t agree more! The discussion on the airliners.net site is very instructive Ed, thanks.

]]> By: rewdy.com » An open letter to friends and colleagues on keyword popovers » Ryan Block http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-47087 rewdy.com » An open letter to friends and colleagues on keyword popovers » Ryan Block Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:16:41 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-47087 [...] An open letter to friends and colleagues on keyword popovers » Ryan Block [...] [...] An open letter to friends and colleagues on keyword popovers » Ryan Block [...]

]]> By: Ed http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-46847 Ed Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:47:12 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-46847 If you're wondering what a user revolt against IntelliTXT looks like, have a look at airliners.net: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/site_related/read.main/63395/ It ain't pretty. If you’re wondering what a user revolt against IntelliTXT looks like, have a look at airliners.net:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/site_related/read.main/63395/

It ain’t pretty.

]]> By: TiVo Blog » TiVo Blog Now Has ~50% Less Ads! http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-46721 TiVo Blog » TiVo Blog Now Has ~50% Less Ads! Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:38:12 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-46721 [...] Earlier today I implemented a WordPress plugin which allows me to remove ads from this site based on whether or not you’re a “regular” to the site. Now, if you leave a comment on the site you should no longer see any Google Adsense & Vibrant Media ads. I still have a couple of other ads being displayed for regular users however, I thought it would be nice to reward regular users by removing these ads (especially the Vibrant Media ads which can get annoying). [...] [...] Earlier today I implemented a WordPress plugin which allows me to remove ads from this site based on whether or not you’re a “regular” to the site. Now, if you leave a comment on the site you should no longer see any Google Adsense & Vibrant Media ads. I still have a couple of other ads being displayed for regular users however, I thought it would be nice to reward regular users by removing these ads (especially the Vibrant Media ads which can get annoying). [...]

]]> By: On backlinking (or “internal linking”) » Ryan Block http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-46665 On backlinking (or “internal linking”) » Ryan Block Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:51:36 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-46665 [...] and external links that aren’t necessarily true. But it’s an interesting topic given my stance on keyword popovers and the like, and it’s definitely worth [...] [...] and external links that aren’t necessarily true. But it’s an interesting topic given my stance on keyword popovers and the like, and it’s definitely worth [...]

]]> By: Keyword popups suck - Ryan speaks - The Red Ferret Journal http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-46293 Keyword popups suck - Ryan speaks - The Red Ferret Journal Fri, 07 Sep 2007 18:24:45 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-46293 [...] Block from Engadget has a small rant about keyword popup advertising, which he says pollutes the content and confuses readers. Couldn’t agree more. And while [...] [...] Block from Engadget has a small rant about keyword popup advertising, which he says pollutes the content and confuses readers. Couldn’t agree more. And while [...]

]]> By: Chris Blackburn http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-46113 Chris Blackburn Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:54:00 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-46113 Here here! Thank you for expressing my own thoughts! Here here! Thank you for expressing my own thoughts!

]]> By: Dave Zatz http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-46111 Dave Zatz Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:34:39 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-46111 I'd like to replace IntelliTXT with something less intrusive, but us small time bloggers often have a hard time routinely/regularly sourcing banner ads. I don't have a sales team or person like Engadget, B5, etc and I don't have the time, interest, or connections to do it well myself. Having said that, I provide full text in my RSS feeds so folks aren't forced to wade through my less than ideal site design. Also, by default IntelliTXT places like 7 highlighted words per page - but I've reduced that to 3 per post and on the main page. Potentially less revenue, but hopefully less annoying too. I’d like to replace IntelliTXT with something less intrusive, but us small time bloggers often have a hard time routinely/regularly sourcing banner ads. I don’t have a sales team or person like Engadget, B5, etc and I don’t have the time, interest, or connections to do it well myself.

Having said that, I provide full text in my RSS feeds so folks aren’t forced to wade through my less than ideal site design. Also, by default IntelliTXT places like 7 highlighted words per page - but I’ve reduced that to 3 per post and on the main page. Potentially less revenue, but hopefully less annoying too.

]]> By: Biting the hand that feeds you | WinExtra http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-45991 Biting the hand that feeds you | WinExtra Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:33:19 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-45991 [...] though fellow bloggers like Ryan Block asked in a post for other bloggers to stop using the keyword popup ads the vast majority of the top blogs are awash [...] [...] though fellow bloggers like Ryan Block asked in a post for other bloggers to stop using the keyword popup ads the vast majority of the top blogs are awash [...]

]]> By: Jason http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-45893 Jason Mon, 03 Sep 2007 02:58:43 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-45893 I'll back up the Amens as a convert to this thinking. I used to run these ads, enjoyed the money, but actually started to loathe my own site. Now these (and other ads) are gone, and while I may make less I really don't care! I’ll back up the Amens as a convert to this thinking. I used to run these ads, enjoyed the money, but actually started to loathe my own site. Now these (and other ads) are gone, and while I may make less I really don’t care!

]]> By: John http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-45825 John Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:44:39 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-45825 #47 The problem is people who run ads tend to abuse them. If your content/ad ratio is not controlled then what is the point of your site? I have no problem with a site with ads, but when you visit a site that seems to be nothing but ads, that is a problem. I have been doing a bit of learning on C# .net recently and it's been a roller coaster ride of ad sites and sites that offer real content. Ad sites are lame. They offer no real value to the internet, but manage to get front page placement on search engines. Pop over ads make these ad only web sites despicable. #47 The problem is people who run ads tend to abuse them. If your content/ad ratio is not controlled then what is the point of your site? I have no problem with a site with ads, but when you visit a site that seems to be nothing but ads, that is a problem. I have been doing a bit of learning on C# .net recently and it’s been a roller coaster ride of ad sites and sites that offer real content. Ad sites are lame. They offer no real value to the internet, but manage to get front page placement on search engines.

Pop over ads make these ad only web sites despicable.

]]> By: Tim http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-45789 Tim Sat, 01 Sep 2007 22:11:54 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-45789 You've hit it right on the head! These are a bane on my internet existence! You’ve hit it right on the head! These are a bane on my internet existence!

]]> By: Rob http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-45729 Rob Sat, 01 Sep 2007 08:21:54 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-45729 We've been asked by Vibrant to advertise on our site, and we refuse to put them on because 1) they are so aggrivating to me personally, 2) our readers hate them. You won't see them on GottaBeMobile.com ever . Thanks for the post, Ryan. We’ve been asked by Vibrant to advertise on our site, and we refuse to put them on because 1) they are so aggrivating to me personally, 2) our readers hate them.

You won’t see them on GottaBeMobile.com ever .

Thanks for the post, Ryan.

]]> By: May C http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-45713 May C Sat, 01 Sep 2007 05:00:50 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-45713 I agree. I actually find these intellitext ads extremely annoying. They make people (originally myself included) click on them thinking there is a valid link only to find that I've been taken to an advertisement. I find some sites that I visit often have that and really try hard to disable the scripts with Adblock because they really annoy me. I do have ads but they're mainly affiliate ads and post some in my post but I refuse to add additional feedburner ads to my feeds since I also find them annoying too. Not that my own personal affiliate ones are any better though. I agree. I actually find these intellitext ads extremely annoying. They make people (originally myself included) click on them thinking there is a valid link only to find that I’ve been taken to an advertisement. I find some sites that I visit often have that and really try hard to disable the scripts with Adblock because they really annoy me. I do have ads but they’re mainly affiliate ads and post some in my post but I refuse to add additional feedburner ads to my feeds since I also find them annoying too. Not that my own personal affiliate ones are any better though.

]]> By: Linkpost | 31.8.2007 - TechPortal - Your Daily source for Tech news, views, reviews, tutorials, gadgets and lots more… http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-45707 Linkpost | 31.8.2007 - TechPortal - Your Daily source for Tech news, views, reviews, tutorials, gadgets and lots more… Sat, 01 Sep 2007 04:12:05 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-45707 [...] An open letter to friends and colleagues on keyword popovers — Short version: Cut it out, it’s irritating (language [...] [...] An open letter to friends and colleagues on keyword popovers — Short version: Cut it out, it’s irritating (language [...]

]]> By: Ryan Block http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-45703 Ryan Block Sat, 01 Sep 2007 02:52:41 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-45703 Larry, I can't say I blame your comment given our size nowadays, but you weren't there with us early on at Engadget. We scraped to get by, Peter and I and the first writers all worked for free for a long time. It was months and months until my my first paycheck, which, if I recall, was less than $200. Eventually I quit my job to work for scraps hoping Engadget would take off. And guess what, I didn't want obtrusive ads then, either. We may have added more ad slots since 2004, but our advertising policy hasn't changed a lick from we were bootstrapping it. And so long as I have anything to say about it, it won't in the future. Larry, I can’t say I blame your comment given our size nowadays, but you weren’t there with us early on at Engadget. We scraped to get by, Peter and I and the first writers all worked for free for a long time. It was months and months until my my first paycheck, which, if I recall, was less than $200. Eventually I quit my job to work for scraps hoping Engadget would take off. And guess what, I didn’t want obtrusive ads then, either.

We may have added more ad slots since 2004, but our advertising policy hasn’t changed a lick from we were bootstrapping it. And so long as I have anything to say about it, it won’t in the future.

]]> By: Larry http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/an-open-letter-to-friends-and-colleagues-on-keyword-popovers/#comment-45693 Larry Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:13:12 +0000 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/08/dear-every-site-advertising-with-keyword-popovers/#comment-45693 It's so easy for you to take this stance when Engadget makes more money in a month than normal people will make in 5 years. You could say you'd have done this anyway if Engadget wasn't big, but how would you know? If I'm ever making as much money as you guys at Engadget make, I'd gladly take down Vibrant ads, but until then, I'd like to pay rent. It’s so easy for you to take this stance when Engadget makes more money in a month than normal people will make in 5 years. You could say you’d have done this anyway if Engadget wasn’t big, but how would you know?

If I’m ever making as much money as you guys at Engadget make, I’d gladly take down Vibrant ads, but until then, I’d like to pay rent.

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